During a Wednesday appearance on Ellen, Will Smith opened up about raising 17-year-old Jaden Smith and 15-year-old Willow Smith. “Teenagers should be [considered] an affliction, you know?” he joked. “Like, when people come up to you, like, ‘Hey Will, how you doing?’–‘Awww man I got teenager.'” He then stressed, “It takes everything you have to raise teenagers.” Smith also offered what could be an explanation for how weird and annoying his teens–especially Jaden–come off in interviews. “We decided a long time ago that it’s sort of better to flow with what people are naturally, more than, like, what our egos need them to be,” he explained.